thank goodness for computers, and i like to joke that president obama got to the white house faster than i did because it was really a hobby that just kind of took on a life of its own, and i have children. so i wanted them to see me pursuing a goal and not getting discouraged. in 2008 it worked out. >> i always say that no is the first answer on the way to yes. >> right. exactly. >> so this experience, which we'll talk a little bit more about in 2008, inspired you to write the book. i want to look at the images first. i think as the public, the image we're used to seeing is that white house christmas tree arriving at the white house, right? >> exactly. >> this is this year's christmas tree. a lot of -- when that tree arrives, though, that's really when the work begins. tell us about it. what goes into decorating the white house for the holidays? is it >> it's an enormous undertaking, and i like to say the first lady is the commander in chief of christmas. it's her vision. we execute it. but it's done with almost military precision. they start thinking about these themes in february and